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let's start with the federal government

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and what Trump is ordered as far as I

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can tell the only thing the federal

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government has really ordered is the 15

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day thing we keep hearing Trump talk

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about that it's gonna be up a week from

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Monday he's saying we're gonna reassess

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or we'll tell you at that point um so

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what what is what's the most owners

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things in that 15 day requirement or

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rules and where does the federal

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government authority to do that well the

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first thing I would have is is he

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actually really ordering eBay or as had

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been really strong I will call it really

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strong suggestions I haven't really ever

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got the impression that Donald Trump has

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ordered a nationwide quarantine as much

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as he has strongly suggested it and

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that's I haven't actually like on the

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state and the counties I have spent a

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lot of time studying what they have

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actually said I've actually looked at

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the writings there but as for the

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president and the and the United States

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I haven't yeah I haven't actually read

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the text of though so the 15 days to

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slow the spread presidents coronavirus

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guidelines which as you point out

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perhaps these are simply guidelines in

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the federal government has not actually

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you know it's if you feel sick say at

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home if your children are 6 and at home

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if you're an older person stay at home

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you know and we saw that with Ted Cruz

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you know Ted Cruz came into contact with

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somebody who had the virus at CPAC and

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so what did he do he self quarantined

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you know Donald Trump came in contact

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with somebody who had the virus what did

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he do he went out and got tested those

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are the reasonable things that we really

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are getting from the federal government

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if you come in contact with somebody go

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self quarantine yourself if you if you

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know that you've come in contact with

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somebody who has a virus go get yourself

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tested let's be safe let's be cautious

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these are guidelines I don't I don't see

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the same level of what we see out of the

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state of California we're not seeing out

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of state of Florida which has a lot more

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retired people than we see out of the

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state of California the Florida governor

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hasn't come out with an executive order

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and said you are to stay in place where

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are the places that you see the stay in

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place orders you see him in California

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you see him in New York I believe

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Massachusetts has done one Illinois's

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has done one you know traditionally

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solid blue states are the states that

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have come up with these executive orders

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where they've just taken the guidelines

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of the federal government and they said

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no they're not guidelines you know

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you're to shelter in place yeah well and

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you mentioned something we might as well

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politics is obviously going to enter

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into this it has to and you mentioned

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that these are blue state meaning

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Democrat governors what is it that

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causes a Democrat governor to be more

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inclined to implement tough safety

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measures compared to a Republican

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governor for instance like the one you

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have in Florida I think the issue is a

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difference in perspective and a dis I

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and a respect for the Constitution and

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the concepts of personal responsibility

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and personal liberty you know as a child

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you chaffed at your parents telling you

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when you had to go to bed and who who

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your friends could be you couldn't wait

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to grow up to be able to make your own

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decisions and that seems to be one of

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the biggest difference between

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Republicans and Democrats is that the

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desire of Liberty the desire of I don't

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want the government to tell me what to

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do whereas in the Democrat circles they

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are much more open to government control

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and government dictatorial power in the

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Republican circles they are much more

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about freedom and liberty where I am an

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adult I can hear what the media is

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telling me I can read the scientific

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reports and I'm going to make the

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that's best for me and my family whereas

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in the Democrat States you see much more

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of a willingness to say no what I'm

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gonna make that decision for you so the

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Republican governor is more like a

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parent who has a 23 year old living at

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their house maybe home for summer from

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college for the summer versus a Democrat

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governor is somebody who has a 13 year

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old living at the house there's a little

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bit more control that a parent should

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exercise over their 13 year old and over

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their 23 year old and I see the

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Republicans treat their constituents

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more like the 23 year old child then

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Democrats tend to treat their

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constituents more like a 13 year old

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yeah well I I tend to agree with you you

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know but if there was ever a need for

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government you would think this would be

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the time I think the issues at play are

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what you just described but also trying

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to understand okay

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who's right here is the Florida governor

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right to not impose all this stuff and

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not hurt his economy as much or is the

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California governor right that no this

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is a serious public safety concern this

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thing is gonna spread like wildfire

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millions are gonna die if we don't

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implement these draconian shut down

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measures I think that six months from

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now or a year from now we're gonna look

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back and we're gonna say one guy was

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right and one guy was wrong well let's

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let's go back to World War two Pearl

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Harbor happened 74 days later the

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President of the United States FDR was

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under so much political pressure that he

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did something he had to do something and

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what was something that he did he

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interned the Japanese he took away their

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property he took away their Liberty he

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took away their right to pursue

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happiness

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all in the name of political expediency

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of doing something to protect the

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Americans and now as we look back at it

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as constitutional scholars look back at

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it we clearly see that he violated the

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japanese-americans constitutional rights

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and we say you know what you do not have

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the right as a politician in the name of

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political expediency to take away the

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constitutional rights what is the

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Constitution the United States

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Constitution and state constitutions are

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contracts between the people and the

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government it is a document that it's

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not really designed to limit people it

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is designed to limit the government and

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to say government there are some areas

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that you just do not have control over

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and that's why we have the Bill of

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Rights to say hey Congress you cannot

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touch the Second Amendment rights to

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bear arm Congress you cannot authorize

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unwarranted searches and seizures and

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so interesting is a third amendment the

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third amendment is probably the least

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litigated amendment don't please don't

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ask for what it's so the third amendment

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is the one that soldiers cannot force

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themselves into your house and make you

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house them and feed them during the

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Revolutionary War what would happen is

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the British would come into town and

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they basically find that nicest house

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and they basically plant themselves

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there and they would make you feed them

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you go kill your cows go kill your

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chickens and you and they and some of

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some of the generals actually paid but

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most of them did not it was government

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forced itself upon your personal rights

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your home your ability to make a living

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your ability to feed your people and the

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founding fathers were so up

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about that that they put in the third

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amendment in the Bill of Rights that

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government does not have the power to

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supersede over your home that is your

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personal property that is your personal

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sphere of influence and so what we

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understand as we now look at what is

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going on and let's look at the state of

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California it started in San Francisco

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San Francisco basically was the one as

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far as I can tell by timeline with the

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first County to do the shelter in place

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you're not going to go you know we're

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taking the recommendations of the

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federal government we're taking the

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recommendations of the state of

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California and but we're gonna actually

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use our police powers and we're going to

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enforce that and you are ordered to stay

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at home now the statute that this the

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County of San Francisco and the Bay Area

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is utilized is a statute that has been

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around for a long time this is actually

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not the first time in the State of

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California's history that public health

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officials have tried to use their

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authority to quarantine people and those

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issues have been litigated not once not

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twice multiple times and the courts have

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said that public health officials have

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the authority to quarantine people who

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they reasonably believe to be affected

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by the infected by the virus or have

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been around people likely to be infected

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by the virus they have to show and it's

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a legal term probable cause if they

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don't want to get a judicial warrant to

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quarantine somebody they have to have or

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be able to articulate probable cause

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that somebody has the virus Earth's been

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around somebody who has the virus

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probable cause as to a particular

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individual or a swath of people know by

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age it has to be person by person

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because in here in California we have

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article one section one of our car of

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our Constitution it is actually

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much stronger than the Bill of Rights

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and the courts have constantly

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interpretated interpreted it stronger

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than the Bill of Rights in article 1

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section 1 you have a right to Liberty

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you have a right to obtain property and

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maintain property when and the courts

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looking at these quarantine orders that

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were not specifically articulated as to

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that person they said if you do not have

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proximate cause to determine that that

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person has the virus you cannot deprive

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them of their liberties you cannot

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deprive them of their ability to obtain

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and maintain property which is a job

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were these courts looking at quarantines

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that apply to everyone as these do yeah

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they were there there are applied to

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quarantines where they said you have

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trach taken away a person's right was

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out actually making a determination that

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that individual has right and in that

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circumstance was it like today where the

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city or county had ordered everyone to

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stay at home what was the example in

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that case if you recall I I don't recall

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that one I've read way too many cases

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but I mean it's it's be how

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unprecedented is it for there to be an

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order that applies to everyone

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well no has that ever happened in

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California before that it applied to

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everyone as this one does I got to

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remember that the Spanish flu was

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killing tons of people in the United

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States during World War two and that or

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World War one and these cases arose out

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of that the World War 1 epidemic that we

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call the Spanish flu today it is you

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know that what their governor that was a

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way bigger killer than this Oh

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seventy seventy thousand people I think

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in something like seventy thousand

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people were killed in the United States

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alone from it isn't it was like more

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much smaller population yes and it was

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more I think more people in the United

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States died because of the Spanish flu

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then died in World War one so California

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was trying to or California counties

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were trying to implement something

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similar to what they're doing today to

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control the Spanish flu and the courts

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said no it was overly broad this

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restriction you put in place it needs to

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be narrowly tailored essentially to

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people who have been infected or you can

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reasonably suspect have been exposed to

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infected people basically if if you know

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that your wife had tested positive they

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could quarantine you and your children

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and by the way I think that's how South

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Korea was doing I've just read been

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reading about South Korea and they were

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very strict about as soon as they

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learned that somebody in particular had

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it they would send notices out to that

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neighborhood and anybody and that

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ballpark was now quarantined yeah and

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that's because our Constitution protects

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that individual right you know what I'm

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not saying that people shouldn't you

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know as I mentioned earlier Ted Cruz

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self quarantine the second he realized

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that he might be infected let's go do

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the test less quarantine myself you know

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what there there are people who are in

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their sixties and seventies or people

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who have disease is who know that

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they're more susceptible to it those

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type of individuals they're responsible

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adults they know better than to just go

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out into the public I have plenty of

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friends in the political world who let's

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say are seventy years old

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as soon as this thing came out they

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basically told all their friends I'll

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see you in a couple months we're just

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gonna stay home and you know have a home

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vacation that is prudence that is

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liberty that is how things are supposed

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to work what you're not supposed to do

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is say to that 30 year old okay let's do

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it this way let's say you have twin

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brothers 22 years old one of them has a

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job at the grocery store the other has a

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job at the local bar now they both have

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the go went to the same school they have

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the same amount of student debt they

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live together but one of them is allowed

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to interact with people and make an

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maked make money and the other one is

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forced to stay home what we are doing

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was this Paul

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see right now if the government is

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picking winners and losers if you're if

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you got a government job you're gonna

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get your paycheck but if you work at a

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restaurant if you are a small business

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owner and you own a dentist shop you're

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gonna be staying home but if you own a

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bar you're staying home but if you have

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a grocery store you get to work yeah but

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there is a rational basis behind them

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picking those winners and losers

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essential workers is not essential and

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it does seem to me they've divided that

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up appropriately but even before you get

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to that what you're saying is if it's

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not narrowly tailored to people who

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either have it or have been in proximity

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to it that inherently is over broad

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based on prior court rulings there's

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quite precedent in California saying

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sorry guys

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unconstitutional can't do it exactly and

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you don't hear many people saying this

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other than you and maybe a handful of

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others I thought I was one of the first

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to come out with this there I've been

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seeing some people who have started to

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say this over the weekend I started to

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see stuff in other states this issue has

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been you're starting to see more and

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more people talk about it

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I've been formed by people in DC that I

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was one of the first people out there

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who actually raised this issue yeah and

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the issue that we're talking about is

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not what if there was no Constitution

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but others knows just what should we do

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you could have a reasonable argument

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that you'd have half the people saying I

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like what California's doing we should

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shut everything down and the other half

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would say no I think that this is too

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much but you need to look at what's

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going on in the context of the

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governmental system that we live under

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and as you point out we have a

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constitution that's been around for 250

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years on the federal level and whatever

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number 170 170 years on the California

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level that we've all bought into and

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said we we hold that up here and

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everything else you cannot violate the

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Constitution I think most people agree

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you should not cannot violate the

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Constitution the state of emergency

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powers that the governor have in that

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power it gives the governor authority to

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suspend regulations and statutes and he

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has done so regarding our elections you

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know usually in the elections

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the states have 30 days to certify

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election he expanded it to 51 days that

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is completely within his power but if

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you study the powers of the governor

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under the state of emergency act and it

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says that here are the numerated powers

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which means if it's not in that list of

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powers he does not have and one of the

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things that he does not have is the

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ability to suspend your constitutional

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rights he could suspend a statute he

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could suspend a regulation but he cannot

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suspend the Constitution okay

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so let's stay now well let's go back to

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federal and it looks like we've

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confirmed I just looked it up on my

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computer what we were that you're 100%

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correct that federal is guidelines so

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the federal government hasn't ordered

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anything they've issued guidelines that

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the states have now encounters have

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taken and kind of run with as you point

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out so now as far as what has Newsom and

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the state of California done what has he

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ordered and then we'll get to the

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counties and cities what has he ordered

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that you believe may be unconstitutional

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okay first off if you look at the you

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got to look at everything in order first

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he declared a state of emergency

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perfectly within his rights to do so

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issued the state of emergency

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now he's exercising under his state of

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emergency powers when he gives executive

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orders in his executive order last

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Thursday night he stated that the

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executive order was that we were to heed

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the directives of the public health

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authorities that word heed means to take

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consideration so if you were to take the

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actual legal analysis of what Gavin

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Newsom did was an executive order his

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executive order was to the people

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California as you make your decisions in

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your daily life you are to consider the

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advice of the California Department of

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Public Health in your decision making

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that is what the actual words of the

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order say now what does he say that they

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said well he went out on Twitter he said

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in his press conference I

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have ordered this shelter in place his

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order actually does not say that his

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order does not say that there's a

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shelter in place order for the state of

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California he just a bit clerk is really

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important what you're getting heed does

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not mean must follow you got it

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because I mean I trust you that you've

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looked up the definition and the legal

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Devon this has been interpreted by

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courts what he'd means he's not a word

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that's interpreted the court you have to

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go to the merriam-webster dictionary to

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figure out what it means and so you

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believe that was very clearly

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intentional to use that word because if

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he had used you must follow these they

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recognize that would probably been

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unconstitutional he's been using this

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word he'd throughout the whole entire

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time whether he's doing it intentionally

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or accidentally I don't know but it's

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but he's consistently using the word

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he'd and as you go and look at the word

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he'd it does not you know I've looked in

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Black's Law Dictionary Black's Law

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Dictionary doesn't even define it it's

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not defined in our code section so you

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have to go to the English dictionaries

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and the English dictionaries do not it

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is a strong suggestion like language

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mm-hmm so it's a and you would say

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probably intentionally done by him in

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recognition that he's not able to order

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these things I you know anybody who

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studies the history of quarantine law in

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California understands he doesn't have

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the authority to order statewide

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quarantine so I think his advisers have

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actually advised him very well he wants

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their based at home where the problem

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has come in is that all the sheriffs and

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the Highway Patrol and the meter maids

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all have this assumption that it is

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actually an order and they are now

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enforcing it through the law so whether

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or not he actually ordered it it's being

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treated as an order and he's speaking of

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it as if it's an order exactly as a

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plate is a case where his his spoken

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word is giving a lot more precedent than

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what the writ

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word is and I think it's creating you

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know whether it's intentional what he's

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doing or I I have no way

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I think it's intentional that he you

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know try to try to create a little bit

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of and have you been looking only at

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California

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I have predominantly only looked at

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California I've got the same thing yeah

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I'm a California attorney that's where

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I'm allowed to advise my life presumably

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New York's got the same problem they

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they probably have a similar

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Constitution to California and they're

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governors probably violating it as our

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governor sort of is yeah well if

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somebody who studied the Constitution's

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of the states the the Constitution's of

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the state tend to model themselves off

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of the federal government unless you're

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doing the thirteen states that were

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before the federal government in which

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the federal government goes off of the

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thirteen states and their building

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blocks and so when the state of

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California had his initial constitution

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in 1850 and then the subsequent one I

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think was 1871 or 73 I can't remember

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what year they're modeling them off of

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other states and since California with

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around after New York there are going to

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be a lot of provisions in the California

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Constitution that you're going to see in

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the New York Constitution in the

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Illinois Constitution states that had

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constitutions before California so

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before we talk about counties and cities

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one more thing with the state are you

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aware of actual examples of state

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officials treating his you know heating

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requirement because we're not gonna call

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it an order treating it as an order and

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enforcing it everything I've heard has

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come from the county sheriff level I

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haven't heard anything from I mean this

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this would be Highway Patrol is State

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Highway Patrol of the state and I have

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not heard any instances that have come

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from Highway Patrol now what I have

551
00:24:17,369 --> 00:24:14,739
heard it's like you know the Chief

552
00:24:19,950 --> 00:24:17,379
Justice of the state courts has ordered

553
00:24:22,649 --> 00:24:19,960
all the courts to stop doing jury trials

554
00:24:24,089 --> 00:24:22,659
but you know that was in its prerogative

555
00:24:25,889 --> 00:24:24,099
you know they've kept the court systems

556
00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:25,899
open I talked to a criminal attorney

557
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:26,800
yesterday

558
00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:29,200
he's not going into court he's doing you

559
00:24:32,910 --> 00:24:31,480
know telephone calls the the client the

560
00:24:34,380 --> 00:24:32,920
criminals aren't going to the court the

561
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:34,390
judge is just basically doing everything

562
00:24:40,290 --> 00:24:37,450
by telephones you know that that is was

563
00:24:41,850 --> 00:24:40,300
in the prerogative of the Chief Justice

564
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:41,860
of the state of California to say you

565
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:42,400
know what

566
00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:43,600
we're gonna take the recommendations

567
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:46,150
given us by the federal government the

568
00:24:48,690 --> 00:24:47,170
state government and the county

569
00:24:51,210 --> 00:24:48,700
governments we're just not going to put

570
00:24:53,250 --> 00:24:51,220
people in where they have to go appear

571
00:24:56,010 --> 00:24:53,260
in court we're gonna suspend all her

572
00:24:59,370 --> 00:24:56,020
jury trials for a couple months so that

573
00:25:00,810 --> 00:24:59,380
is an example of where the state has

574
00:25:03,299 --> 00:25:00,820
used its authorities but it hasn't

575
00:25:05,910 --> 00:25:03,309
punished somebody it's key it's actually

576
00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:05,920
keeping the system going right but

577
00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:07,750
without a doubt we do think while

578
00:25:12,150 --> 00:25:09,960
Newsom's order might be technically

579
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:12,160
constitutional Newsom has been

580
00:25:19,530 --> 00:25:15,250
conducting himself in a way as to act as

581
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:19,540
if that is a order by the state that

582
00:25:24,570 --> 00:25:21,730
restricts people's liberty regardless of

583
00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:24,580
whether you have the virus or not and

584
00:25:28,620 --> 00:25:26,710
that's clearly unconstitutional he

585
00:25:29,970 --> 00:25:28,630
should know it and it's really not

586
00:25:32,490 --> 00:25:29,980
appropriate for him to be acting the way

587
00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:32,500
he's been acting at public news

588
00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:35,320
conferences I would say that his words

589
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:38,470
clearly violate both the spirit and the

590
00:25:42,090 --> 00:25:39,850
letter of the California Constitution

591
00:25:44,220 --> 00:25:42,100
and probably even the United States

592
00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:44,230
Constitution because you have rights to

593
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:46,150
equal you know due process and equal

594
00:25:51,810 --> 00:25:48,570
protection under the US Constitution

595
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:51,820
there's also the issue of your First

596
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:54,250
Amendment rights of right to associate

597
00:25:59,130 --> 00:25:56,650
when he came in and shut down all events

598
00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:59,140
over 250 or and shut down all the

599
00:26:06,299 --> 00:26:02,559
churches that you have a right to

600
00:26:08,340 --> 00:26:06,309
peaceably assemble now government does

601
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:08,350
have the reasonable time place and

602
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:11,290
manner restrictions you know narrowly

603
00:26:15,770 --> 00:26:13,210
tailored restrictions and the question

604
00:26:19,020 --> 00:26:15,780
then becomes is this a narrowly tailored

605
00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:19,030
restriction or is this not and the

606
00:26:24,270 --> 00:26:21,220
question is well you know what he

607
00:26:26,490 --> 00:26:24,280
initially said you know restaurants 50%

608
00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:26,500
occupancy let's spread people out you're

609
00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:28,360
gonna be allowed but then he said 24

610
00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:31,000
hours later no all restaurants and bars

611
00:26:35,070 --> 00:26:33,790
has to be closed I think the first one

612
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,080
might have passed the mustard as

613
00:26:40,020 --> 00:26:36,880
something that was naylor narrowly

614
00:26:40,499 --> 00:26:40,030
tailored I'm a triathlete I go out there

615
00:26:43,489 --> 00:26:40,509
and I work

616
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:43,499
outside I work out all the time outside

617
00:26:50,699 --> 00:26:48,369
well you know what because the races I

618
00:26:53,369 --> 00:26:50,709
that I was doing had over 250 people the

619
00:26:58,079 --> 00:26:53,379
race organizers all shut down based upon

620
00:26:59,489 --> 00:26:58,089
the governor's orders was that something

621
00:27:02,669 --> 00:26:59,499
that really needed to be shut down

622
00:27:03,930 --> 00:27:02,679
people were outside exercising swimming

623
00:27:05,729 --> 00:27:03,940
you're not gonna catch it in the water

624
00:27:07,859 --> 00:27:05,739
you know people are riding their bikes

625
00:27:10,199 --> 00:27:07,869
you have in these races you have to be

626
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:10,209
more than six meters apart which is well

627
00:27:14,189 --> 00:27:12,129
beyond the six feet people are running

628
00:27:15,959 --> 00:27:14,199
you're in the fresh air that's not where

629
00:27:17,309 --> 00:27:15,969
you know people aren't coughing on each

630
00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:17,319
other these are some of the healthiest

631
00:27:23,369 --> 00:27:18,849
people than people least likely to get

632
00:27:25,349 --> 00:27:23,379
it so is this really a naeli tailored

633
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:25,359
statute and so I think that there is an

634
00:27:30,239 --> 00:27:27,609
argument that it violates the First

635
00:27:32,639 --> 00:27:30,249
Amendment right of Association because

636
00:27:34,139 --> 00:27:32,649
he shut down churches it violates you

637
00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:34,149
know Congress shall pass no law

638
00:27:39,719 --> 00:27:37,499
regarding the you know religion I

639
00:27:42,539 --> 00:27:39,729
because of what's going on with the gun

640
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,549
stores it it's probably violating the

641
00:27:49,289 --> 00:27:44,799
Second Amendment your due process and

642
00:27:52,379 --> 00:27:49,299
equal protection so yes it's very clear

643
00:27:54,329 --> 00:27:52,389
that it's violating the state law but it

644
00:27:57,149 --> 00:27:54,339
also has the state constitution state

645
00:27:58,589 --> 00:27:57,159
constitution but there's also some

646
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,599
pretty strong arguments that are going

647
00:28:03,869 --> 00:28:00,399
to be coming up in the next couple weeks

648
00:28:06,659 --> 00:28:03,879
and that regarding has they also

649
00:28:07,949 --> 00:28:06,669
violated the US Constitution as you

650
00:28:10,919 --> 00:28:07,959
point out there's actually been multiple

651
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:10,929
orders from Newsom has every one of them

652
00:28:16,859 --> 00:28:15,039
used the word he'd pretty much not all

653
00:28:19,259 --> 00:28:16,869
of them are you know he's injured so

654
00:28:21,089 --> 00:28:19,269
many executive orders I'm probably today

655
00:28:24,209 --> 00:28:21,099
or tomorrow going to be doing a YouTube

656
00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:24,219
live on the topic of just every

657
00:28:28,379 --> 00:28:25,929
executive order that has come out of

658
00:28:29,849 --> 00:28:28,389
Gavin Newsome mouth as a result of this

659
00:28:32,639 --> 00:28:29,859
I mean it's like every day there's a new

660
00:28:35,729 --> 00:28:32,649
executive order not all of them are

661
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:35,739
related to what the people are to do

662
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:38,769
some of them are usually utilizing his

663
00:28:43,619 --> 00:28:41,769
authority you know okay we're gonna make

664
00:28:45,509 --> 00:28:43,629
sure that our school stay funded because

665
00:28:47,789 --> 00:28:45,519
schools are funded based upon how many

666
00:28:49,529 --> 00:28:47,799
days they're open well we're gonna make

667
00:28:51,869 --> 00:28:49,539
sure that next year's school budget is

668
00:28:54,509 --> 00:28:51,879
not deprived because we had to close

669
00:28:54,790 --> 00:28:54,519
everything up this year you know so some

670
00:28:56,620 --> 00:28:54,800
of the

671
00:28:58,090 --> 00:28:56,630
have absolutely nothing to do with

672
00:29:01,300 --> 00:28:58,100
shelter-in-place or anything like that

673
00:29:06,790 --> 00:29:01,310
there you know like the executive orders

674
00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:06,800
regarding the elections but when he has

675
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:09,740
come out when he's been talking about

676
00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:14,090
following public health directives he

677
00:29:18,910 --> 00:29:15,950
has used the word he'd he's been very

678
00:29:21,070 --> 00:29:18,920
consistent that way uh what about the

679
00:29:24,670 --> 00:29:21,080
schools he's ordered the schools closed

680
00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:24,680
yes okay how do you evaluate that from a

681
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:27,590
constitutional perspective the the law

682
00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:33,110
on quarantine has act is actually pretty

683
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:35,990
explicit that they have the power to

684
00:29:40,270 --> 00:29:38,810
just basically shut down the schools

685
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:40,280
during that issue

686
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:46,850
I haven't public and private I'd have to

687
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:48,170
go and look at it I don't think it's

688
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:49,610
been interpreted I didn't look at it

689
00:29:55,180 --> 00:29:52,510
very carefully but the quarantine law

690
00:29:57,870 --> 00:29:55,190
indicated that in order to protect the

691
00:30:02,140 --> 00:29:57,880
spread of it they have the ability to

692
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:02,150
ensure now the question becomes because

693
00:30:06,940 --> 00:30:04,490
it's a statute a couple below the one

694
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:06,950
that says that's been interpreted by the

695
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:09,770
courts as to only allow them to

696
00:30:15,610 --> 00:30:12,970
quarantine those people who they know

697
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:15,620
does that mean that the courts would

698
00:30:23,170 --> 00:30:18,530
interpreted that yes okay you can't make

699
00:30:26,290 --> 00:30:23,180
somebody who they know has this to go to

700
00:30:27,970 --> 00:30:26,300
school you know it's there there needs

701
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:27,980
to be some more research on it but the

702
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:30,650
plain reading of it tends to indicate

703
00:30:34,030 --> 00:30:32,510
that the state has power to just kind of

704
00:30:36,580 --> 00:30:34,040
shut down the school you certainly think

705
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:36,590
as to the public schools that would have

706
00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:38,960
that but back to the personal liberty

707
00:30:43,650 --> 00:30:40,670
which is in the California Constitution

708
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:43,660
yeah but that clearly would apply to is

709
00:30:47,740 --> 00:30:45,710
limiting someone to that you can't leave

710
00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:47,750
your home they accept under these

711
00:30:53,260 --> 00:30:50,750
circumstances that is a clear violation

712
00:30:55,390 --> 00:30:53,270
of personal liberty that the courts have

713
00:30:59,050 --> 00:30:55,400
already said that yes right it's so it's

714
00:31:01,600 --> 00:30:59,060
it and you also you know our article one

715
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:01,610
section one says their right to obtain

716
00:31:08,190 --> 00:31:06,080
and maintain property if you are a small

717
00:31:12,419 --> 00:31:08,200
business owner let's say

718
00:31:14,610 --> 00:31:12,429
that you own a bar you're not allowed to

719
00:31:16,259 --> 00:31:14,620
open that bar that means you're not

720
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:16,269
allowed to go down there because they're

721
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:17,440
saying that you have to stay at home

722
00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:20,350
you're not allowed to maintain that

723
00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:23,590
property to protect that property and

724
00:31:27,690 --> 00:31:25,929
you're left up to the National Guard if

725
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:27,700
that gets called in or the or the police

726
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:29,529
to guard it who are the people who are

727
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:32,710
most likely to disobey this order the

728
00:31:36,269 --> 00:31:34,289
people who are lawbreakers and

729
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:36,279
lawbreakers are looking for

730
00:31:41,220 --> 00:31:39,010
opportunities home burglaries have gone

731
00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:41,230
down with everybody staying at home what

732
00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:44,590
has gone up break-ins at businesses that

733
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:46,990
there's nobody there to protect by

734
00:31:50,610 --> 00:31:48,580
making air-based at home you're

735
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:50,620
decreasing the opportunity for people to

736
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:52,809
protect their property also when you

737
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:54,850
shut down a business let's say it's a

738
00:32:03,210 --> 00:31:58,690
bar that bartender now does not have the

739
00:32:06,690 --> 00:32:03,220
ability to obtain property you have cut

740
00:32:09,659 --> 00:32:06,700
off their constitutional right just

741
00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:09,669
because they are a bartender to go out

742
00:32:14,190 --> 00:32:12,340
and obtain property because they can't

743
00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:14,200
make the money they can't go you know

744
00:32:19,019 --> 00:32:16,990
buy additional property there are so

745
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:19,029
many problems with what's going on

746
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:21,850
because we're quarantine een everybody

747
00:32:27,090 --> 00:32:25,120
and we're making the decision as to what

748
00:32:29,659 --> 00:32:27,100
is essential and what is not essential

749
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:29,669
and here's it here's just a common sense

750
00:32:36,299 --> 00:32:31,690
let's put a little common sense into

751
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:36,309
this because we're rationing milk and

752
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:39,570
eggs to you know one one gallon and and

753
00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:43,600
one dozen eggs if you are a family of

754
00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:45,669
five you're gonna have to go to the

755
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:48,880
grocery store every single day which

756
00:32:53,789 --> 00:32:50,610
means you're you're being put into

757
00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:53,799
contact with with somebody at the

758
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:55,840
grocery store every single day and

759
00:32:59,789 --> 00:32:57,970
here's a deal because we're closing our

760
00:33:01,740 --> 00:32:59,799
restaurants down more people have to go

761
00:33:04,259 --> 00:33:01,750
to the grocery store so instead of

762
00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:04,269
spreading everybody out what we have

763
00:33:08,669 --> 00:33:06,070
done is we forced everybody into a

764
00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:08,679
consolidated area and because we've put

765
00:33:13,259 --> 00:33:10,750
rationing principles in people have to

766
00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:13,269
go there even more and that's why you're

767
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:14,620
going to the grocery stores and you're

768
00:33:20,299 --> 00:33:16,809
seeing a lot of empty aisles and stuff

769
00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:20,309
like that because you're forcing

770
00:33:23,580 --> 00:33:22,150
everybody rather than

771
00:33:26,910 --> 00:33:23,590
spread out you know they're food

772
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:26,920
purchases between the restaurants and

773
00:33:32,430 --> 00:33:30,730
the grocery stores now everything's a

774
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:32,440
grocery store and because of rationing

775
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:33,910
everybody has to go to that gorgeous

776
00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:36,490
standing in line together and whether it

777
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:37,990
be waiting outside a restaurant to get

778
00:33:41,670 --> 00:33:39,250
in or waiting to get into a grocery

779
00:33:44,660 --> 00:33:41,680
store I had that experience this weekend

780
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:44,670
I went to Joshua Tree National Park

781
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:47,670
Joshua Tree National Park on Saturday

782
00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:50,170
closed I don't know if you've been there

783
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:52,990
but this is a 60 mile wide park in the

784
00:33:57,660 --> 00:33:56,050
middle of the desert wide open they

785
00:33:59,120 --> 00:33:57,670
closed it so what do you have you have

786
00:34:01,950 --> 00:33:59,130
all these people at the entrance

787
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:01,960
congregating they were turning cars away

788
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:03,310
but they're allowing people to walk into

789
00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:05,220
the park ok there's all these people now

790
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:08,200
hiking in Joshua Tree Park all together

791
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:10,510
instead of being spread out among the 60

792
00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:11,919
miles I checked all the other parks

793
00:34:17,730 --> 00:34:14,940
Yosemite National Park is now closed

794
00:34:20,010 --> 00:34:17,740
Sequoia Park all the national parks have

795
00:34:23,310 --> 00:34:20,020
closed these huge wide-open spaces yeah

796
00:34:26,010 --> 00:34:23,320
I mean I went for a run on Sunday

797
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:26,020
morning up to Mount Wilson over Los

798
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:28,570
Angeles and you know what it was a

799
00:34:32,190 --> 00:34:30,970
five-mile on a paved road that was

800
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:32,200
closed because they've closed the

801
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:33,250
observatory

802
00:34:38,909 --> 00:34:36,130
I was probably most of time with the

803
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:38,919
closest person to me was was it was in a

804
00:34:44,970 --> 00:34:41,890
it was at least a mile I mean that's on

805
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:44,980
average during that you know run here's

806
00:34:51,450 --> 00:34:48,970
the deal just the other day we saw LA

807
00:34:56,730 --> 00:34:51,460
County is closing down all the hiking

808
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:56,740
trails and the foothills why I mean

809
00:35:00,690 --> 00:34:58,090
people are in the fresh air they're

810
00:35:02,580 --> 00:35:00,700
getting exercise because they hear a

811
00:35:05,610 --> 00:35:02,590
couple complaints that people were

812
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:05,620
within the six feet of each other well

813
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:07,240
if they're not coughing on them right

814
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:08,710
there yeah you got you know these trails

815
00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:10,750
are narrow you're gonna pass every now

816
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:13,150
and then but it's it's not like these

817
00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:16,750
people were endangering it is well you

818
00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:19,390
pointed out internment after or during

819
00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:22,030
World War two after Pearl Harbor and you

820
00:35:28,410 --> 00:35:23,980
could cite example of example of

821
00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:28,420
Americans overreacting to a dramatic

822
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:31,000
incident it is human nature now to have

823
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:34,720
fear panic and overreaction set in and

824
00:35:37,530 --> 00:35:35,770
you know

825
00:35:39,390 --> 00:35:37,540
a good argument says that that's what

826
00:35:41,010 --> 00:35:39,400
happened after 9/11 that we overreacted

827
00:35:42,510 --> 00:35:41,020
to 9/11 and you kind of look at it but

828
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:42,520
we opened up our airports for them four

829
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:45,820
days of 9/11 within four days of 9/11 we

830
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:50,770
we we reopened the economy this you know

831
00:35:57,810 --> 00:35:54,160
we are you know I like to go back to

832
00:36:00,420 --> 00:35:57,820
FDR's phrase the only thing to fear is

833
00:36:03,690 --> 00:36:00,430
fear itself and unfortunately as you're

834
00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:03,700
saying right now people are fearing and

835
00:36:11,370 --> 00:36:06,300
it's allowing the politicians to

836
00:36:13,650 --> 00:36:11,380
overstep their the limitations that are

837
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:13,660
put upon them and we're letting them to

838
00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:15,400
do it and you know people and I've been

839
00:36:19,290 --> 00:36:16,780
attacked by some of the things that I've

840
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:19,300
said on you know today I said it on

841
00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:20,710
YouTube and I've been attacked saying

842
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:23,560
you know what I've been a lifelong you

843
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:26,290
know liberty-loving American and I think

844
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:28,930
that you know you are the problem

845
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:33,520
no I'm saying in the same way that you

846
00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:36,610
don't tell curfew to your 23 year old is

847
00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:39,640
the same thing Americans are smart

848
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:41,740
enough we live in the information age in

849
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:46,210
between Facebook the internet Twitter

850
00:36:52,830 --> 00:36:50,710
the news media cable news you have the

851
00:36:55,020 --> 00:36:52,840
ability to get the information out there

852
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:55,030
now you have to use your brain and use

853
00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:56,890
critical thinking skills to figure out

854
00:37:02,160 --> 00:36:58,240
what's important and what's not

855
00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:02,170
important but here's the deal you have a

856
00:37:08,090 --> 00:37:05,470
greater chance of being killed in a car

857
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:08,100
accident than you do dying of

858
00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:10,000
coronavirus in the United States right

859
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:12,070
now yeah yeah yeah and I do think cars

860
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:13,450
is a really important example I've been

861
00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:15,610
using that a lot because we know tens of

862
00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:18,070
thousands of people die every year from

863
00:37:22,770 --> 00:37:20,260
car accidents but we don't shut down

864
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:22,780
driving there is risk associated with

865
00:37:26,850 --> 00:37:24,760
life we all choose to accept that risk

866
00:37:29,370 --> 00:37:26,860
but all the sudden people are in this oh

867
00:37:31,470 --> 00:37:29,380
if we could save one life it's all worth

868
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:31,480
it wrong it's not worth it that's not

869
00:37:34,290 --> 00:37:32,650
the way we conduct ourselves that's not

870
00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:34,300
the way we live our lives especially not

871
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:36,580
as Americans yeah what we're gonna do

872
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:39,330
this is gonna have a long-term impact

873
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:42,070
you know we already were hearing words

874
00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:45,940
about the the over the bloated pensions

875
00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:49,360
in the state of California what's going

876
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:51,700
to happen because the stock market has

877
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:54,640
tanked to all these cities if you

878
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:56,410
remember what happened in 2008 when the

879
00:38:00,660 --> 00:37:58,930
stock market crashed cities had to start

880
00:38:03,170 --> 00:38:00,670
laying off firefighters and police

881
00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:03,180
departments because they had designated

882
00:38:07,940 --> 00:38:06,040
amount of money that they had to pay for

883
00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:07,950
pensions for people who no longer worked

884
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:10,990
what's gonna happen if real estate

885
00:38:14,430 --> 00:38:12,880
prices start having to fall because

886
00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:14,440
people have to start pulling more money

887
00:38:19,020 --> 00:38:17,440
out you know have to start selling the

888
00:38:23,070 --> 00:38:19,030
real estate in order to pay their bills

889
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:23,080
if we have a real estate crash like we

890
00:38:29,460 --> 00:38:26,530
did in 2008 now that means our cities

891
00:38:32,910 --> 00:38:29,470
are gonna get less tax dollars out of

892
00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:32,920
property tax now over the next six

893
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:35,320
months people are gonna have to recover

894
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:37,510
from this you know not working for a

895
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:39,930
couple months which means they're gonna

896
00:38:44,430 --> 00:38:43,210
restore their personal finances which

897
00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:44,440
means they're not going to be going to

898
00:38:47,130 --> 00:38:45,700
restaurants they're not going to be

899
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:47,140
going to the movie theaters they're not

900
00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:49,090
going to be doing stuff thus they're not

901
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:51,070
gonna be spending their dollars and the

902
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:52,840
sales tax that's gonna be affecting the

903
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:55,330
communities our communities are gonna be

904
00:38:59,580 --> 00:38:57,370
hit because of the stock market crash

905
00:39:00,660 --> 00:38:59,590
and their pit and that what that's gonna

906
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:00,670
do to the pensions are they're gonna

907
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:02,950
have to layoff essential personnel in

908
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:04,930
these counties and cities we're probably

909
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:07,810
gonna see several cities and actually

910
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,150
have to file bankruptcy in the near

911
00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:12,880
future because the sales people are

912
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:15,190
gonna be spending less to try to regain

913
00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:17,410
their personal financial fitting footing

914
00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:19,300
you're gonna see less sales tax which

915
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:20,950
means less money for the cities and

916
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:22,570
you're gonna probably see less property

917
00:39:27,150 --> 00:39:24,730
taxes because property values are gonna

918
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:27,160
fall all over result is because we've

919
00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:30,400
crashed our economy because our

920
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,220
politicians have over stepped their

921
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:35,440
authority what I find interesting about

922
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:38,170
that is here the Constitution is there

923
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:42,340
to protect us right and it really if it

924
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:44,560
had been followed it would be there

925
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:46,570
protecting us right now against

926
00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:49,630
politicians overreaching and crashing

927
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:52,900
the economy so the the courts had

928
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:54,700
already interpreted our constitutions

929
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:56,890
and struck a proper balance when it

930
00:39:59,970 --> 00:39:58,480
comes to quarantine people in

931
00:40:01,650 --> 00:39:59,980
circumstances like this as you point out

932
00:40:02,010 --> 00:40:01,660
we've had this before we had the Spanish

933
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:02,020
flu

934
00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:02,530
yeah

935
00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:04,630
there's court cases on this interpreting

936
00:40:07,650 --> 00:40:05,950
what you're allowed to do in these

937
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:07,660
circumstances if we had followed those

938
00:40:12,930 --> 00:40:11,050
court cases we will be doing all those

939
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:12,940
things just like Donald Trump is doing

940
00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:16,090
its guidelines and you know what if

941
00:40:21,630 --> 00:40:19,150
you're 70 years old you don't go get on

942
00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:21,640
a cruise ship right now you don't get on

943
00:40:26,850 --> 00:40:24,940
a airplane right now you stay home you

944
00:40:28,140 --> 00:40:26,860
have a major health condition or you

945
00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:28,150
have a major health condition over a

946
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:30,670
certain age you know those people should

947
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:32,830
be self quarantine and being extremely

948
00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:34,930
cautious about interacting with anyone

949
00:40:37,340 --> 00:40:36,700
my parents are in their 80s they're in

950
00:40:39,630 --> 00:40:37,350
good health

951
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:39,640
Easter is coming up I was planning to

952
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:41,890
visit them and they said stay home we

953
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:43,570
don't want to see they still wanted to

954
00:40:46,590 --> 00:40:44,800
see us because they love their kids so

955
00:40:48,930 --> 00:40:46,600
much and they love seeing us but it's

956
00:40:52,290 --> 00:40:48,940
the kids actually that are saying we're

957
00:40:55,350 --> 00:40:52,300
not going to risk interacting with you

958
00:40:57,210 --> 00:40:55,360
that's the way to do it you doesn't

959
00:40:59,130 --> 00:40:57,220
require a total shutdown but most

960
00:41:00,660 --> 00:40:59,140
important for this conversation forget

961
00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:00,670
about what you should do or shouldn't

962
00:41:03,870 --> 00:41:02,260
you're saying it violates the

963
00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:03,880
Constitution so either you believe in

964
00:41:08,070 --> 00:41:05,860
the Constitution you don't we don't have

965
00:41:10,020 --> 00:41:08,080
a provision that allows the Constitution

966
00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:10,030
to be suspended under exigent

967
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:12,550
circumstances correct there are there's

968
00:41:17,610 --> 00:41:14,530
one provision of the Constitution that

969
00:41:20,070 --> 00:41:17,620
they have the ability to suspend but

970
00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:20,080
it's in the Constitution that says that

971
00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:23,350
this provision can be suspended Abraham

972
00:41:29,730 --> 00:41:27,190
Lincoln gets a lot of you know a lot of

973
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:29,740
people are upset at Abraham Lincoln for

974
00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:31,650
suspending the rights of habeas corpus

975
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,880
but it's in the Constitution that says

976
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:35,680
he has that authority during the time of

977
00:41:42,510 --> 00:41:40,030
war he utilized his War Powers to

978
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,520
suspend certain rights under the

979
00:41:46,110 --> 00:41:44,800
Constitution that is the only provision

980
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:46,120
of the Constitution that I'm aware of

981
00:41:51,590 --> 00:41:49,690
that has the right to be suspended every

982
00:41:54,570 --> 00:41:51,600
other constitutional right that you have

983
00:41:56,730 --> 00:41:54,580
they do not have the right to suspend

984
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:56,740
whether it's a state of emergency or a

985
00:42:01,710 --> 00:41:59,290
state of war it's same with California

986
00:42:06,260 --> 00:42:01,720
same with California so are there any

987
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:09,300
my firm has been in communication with a

988
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:12,400
lot of potential clients we have not

989
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:15,130
filed one yet I do know that there are

990
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:16,000
people in the

991
00:42:20,849 --> 00:42:18,910
gun owners around the gun stores that

992
00:42:22,530 --> 00:42:20,859
are looking at doing something I have

993
00:42:24,810 --> 00:42:22,540
not heard that any lawsuit has been

994
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:24,820
filed yet I know you know this is still

995
00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:26,770
fresh we're about a week it's you know

996
00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:28,840
you have to make sure that you have the

997
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:31,840
right case and you know these type of

998
00:42:37,890 --> 00:42:33,930
lawsuits are going to be very expensive

999
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:37,900
well on the one hand I get it you need

1000
00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:39,910
time to evaluate the cases on but the

1001
00:42:44,430 --> 00:42:43,030
other hand just as the governors are

1002
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:44,440
saying these are edges and exigent

1003
00:42:47,339 --> 00:42:45,730
circumstances these need to be

1004
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:47,349
implemented right away they are tanking

1005
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:49,210
our economy and destroying our liberties

1006
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:52,240
as we speak so it's almost as if we need

1007
00:42:56,070 --> 00:42:54,910
to be in court immediately challenging

1008
00:42:59,780 --> 00:42:56,080
these trying to get a temporary

1009
00:43:02,310 --> 00:42:59,790
restraining order to keep the state from

1010
00:43:04,170 --> 00:43:02,320
destroying our condoms I'm not gonna

1011
00:43:07,980 --> 00:43:04,180
argue with you there but I've done some

1012
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:07,990
pretty high-level litigations against

1013
00:43:11,790 --> 00:43:09,130
the state and if you're gonna be suing

1014
00:43:15,089 --> 00:43:11,800
the state on constitutional violations

1015
00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:15,099
you need it's not just something that a

1016
00:43:19,890 --> 00:43:17,590
solo attorney is going to just be able

1017
00:43:23,220 --> 00:43:19,900
to go in there and when you really need

1018
00:43:24,660 --> 00:43:23,230
a powerful team a group of attorneys

1019
00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:24,670
that are working together because you're

1020
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:26,230
gonna have a bunch of attorneys working

1021
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,330
around the clock I've cited some

1022
00:43:32,370 --> 00:43:30,640
information that comes from 30 hours of

1023
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:32,380
research that I've done on this issue

1024
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:34,930
and I've just I've just scraped the top

1025
00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:36,730
of it the level of research that would

1026
00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:38,230
need to be done just before you could

1027
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,270
even file one of these lawsuits to get a

1028
00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:42,880
federal judge or state judge to go yeah

1029
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:45,790
the state is unconstitutional you're

1030
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:48,640
probably talking I would say at minimum

1031
00:43:53,820 --> 00:43:52,210
500 hours of attorney time okay if you

1032
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:53,830
if you actually wanted to be successful

1033
00:43:58,589 --> 00:43:55,930
if all you wanted to do is go raise some

1034
00:44:00,570 --> 00:43:58,599
money and highlight this issue yeah I

1035
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:00,580
could have filed a lawsuit yesterday I

1036
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:02,290
could have filed a lawsuit on Friday

1037
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:04,089
it would have been bare-bones but the

1038
00:44:08,579 --> 00:44:06,250
likelihood of success would have been

1039
00:44:11,579 --> 00:44:08,589
very small if you actually want to have

1040
00:44:13,470 --> 00:44:11,589
a successful lawsuit that actually comes

1041
00:44:17,579 --> 00:44:13,480
down and tells the state of California

1042
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:17,589
no you have overstepped your Browns well

1043
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:19,089
but there's a lot of public interest law

1044
00:44:23,609 --> 00:44:21,730
groups out there oftentimes on what

1045
00:44:24,839 --> 00:44:23,619
would be considered the left but I know

1046
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:24,849
there's some on the right isn't like

1047
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:28,810
Pacific Law Foundation yeah why are they

1048
00:44:31,529 --> 00:44:29,650
bringing

1049
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:31,539
this case because I get it I know it

1050
00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:33,490
requires a lot of work but the way

1051
00:44:38,549 --> 00:44:34,990
you're describing things this is a

1052
00:44:40,620 --> 00:44:38,559
clear-cut violation of the California

1053
00:44:42,269 --> 00:44:40,630
Constitution if not the US Constitution

1054
00:44:44,339 --> 00:44:42,279
but as we mentioned I was one of the

1055
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:44,349
first attorneys in the nation that

1056
00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:47,529
started talking about this and you know

1057
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:49,270
is it because I got tired of people

1058
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:51,130
saying are we in martial law and I just

1059
00:44:55,710 --> 00:44:52,960
started down a rabbit trail and it it

1060
00:44:58,980 --> 00:44:55,720
was 30 hours of research and that all

1061
00:45:00,900 --> 00:44:58,990
Son finished the day that you know gavin

1062
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:00,910
newsom does executive order so i was in

1063
00:45:05,279 --> 00:45:03,369
a position to immediately come out there

1064
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:05,289
and talk about it you know you got a lot

1065
00:45:08,910 --> 00:45:06,910
of law firms that have all their

1066
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:08,920
employees at home they're not you know

1067
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,510
sitting in a room talking and discussing

1068
00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:12,160
and doing the research it really does

1069
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:13,720
need to be what they call pro bono work

1070
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,130
it needs to be essentially for free it

1071
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:17,440
needs to be a foundation that is funded

1072
00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:18,910
by people who are concerned about

1073
00:45:23,819 --> 00:45:20,680
government overreach that's the type of

1074
00:45:25,019 --> 00:45:23,829
entity that our firm that needs to bring

1075
00:45:27,359 --> 00:45:25,029
this hopefully will because I what I

1076
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:27,369
envision happening is right now the

1077
00:45:30,809 --> 00:45:28,569
federal government the states are

1078
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:30,819
relatively aligned but with Trump

1079
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:33,970
pushing more and more to ease his own

1080
00:45:38,220 --> 00:45:36,400
guidelines yeah if the states are going

1081
00:45:42,029 --> 00:45:38,230
their own direction look if California

1082
00:45:45,210 --> 00:45:42,039
in New York if California New York are

1083
00:45:47,069 --> 00:45:45,220
shut down the u.s. is shut down so the

1084
00:45:49,650 --> 00:45:47,079
control over this right now is with the

1085
00:45:51,450 --> 00:45:49,660
governors yeah right well I you know and

1086
00:45:54,260 --> 00:45:51,460
so the my point being one of these

1087
00:45:57,029 --> 00:45:54,270
lawsuits may be necessary I and as I

1088
00:45:59,789 --> 00:45:57,039
ever since I did that YouTube video you

1089
00:46:02,519 --> 00:45:59,799
know within hours of Gavin Newsom doing

1090
00:46:04,019 --> 00:46:02,529
his executive order my phone has been

1091
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:04,029
going off the hook and I've been talking

1092
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:06,910
to people and you know unfortunately I'm

1093
00:46:13,289 --> 00:46:09,569
not a non-profit entity I work in a

1094
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:13,299
midsize firm that you know survives on

1095
00:46:19,470 --> 00:46:16,000
people being able to pay their bills and

1096
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:19,480
so I need a case where maybe it's a

1097
00:46:24,420 --> 00:46:22,240
group of restaurants or you know

1098
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,430
somebody who owns a franchise that's had

1099
00:46:28,890 --> 00:46:25,839
to lay off hundreds of employees

1100
00:46:30,930 --> 00:46:28,900
Association yeah that's who has to be my

1101
00:46:33,269 --> 00:46:30,940
client you would and you would go in and

1102
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:33,279
try to get first a temporary restraining

1103
00:46:39,059 --> 00:46:36,010
order yes that's that would be the most

1104
00:46:41,279 --> 00:46:39,069
logical thing to do mm-hmm

1105
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:41,289
and let's talk about we only have a few

1106
00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:43,410
more minutes let's talk about guns

1107
00:46:49,420 --> 00:46:46,680
real quick so is it the city or the

1108
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:49,430
county of LA that has been issuing these

1109
00:46:55,730 --> 00:46:53,490
restrictions on closing of stores saying

1110
00:46:58,220 --> 00:46:55,740
my understanding is it's a city of La

1111
00:47:00,080 --> 00:46:58,230
the City of LA but it's a county sheriff

1112
00:47:01,670 --> 00:47:00,090
that's enforcing it so that's that's

1113
00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:01,680
really been a little confusing because I

1114
00:47:05,570 --> 00:47:03,030
have not heard that the county

1115
00:47:07,310 --> 00:47:05,580
supervisors have put a shelter in place

1116
00:47:09,890 --> 00:47:07,320
all I've heard is that the shelter in

1117
00:47:13,820 --> 00:47:09,900
place came from this this the mayor of

1118
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:13,830
La but it's the sheriff that's enforcing

1119
00:47:17,780 --> 00:47:16,530
it and so it's like it does not make any

1120
00:47:21,110 --> 00:47:17,790
sense there seems to be a lot of

1121
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:21,120
confusion here in LA County in LA City

1122
00:47:25,850 --> 00:47:23,970
as to who's actually making these orders

1123
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:25,860
and who's enforcing these orders I mean

1124
00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:29,670
if it's a city ordinance then it would

1125
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:31,380
be the city police that's both to

1126
00:47:34,310 --> 00:47:32,400
enforce it

1127
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:34,320
you know the mayor of LA doesn't have

1128
00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:36,810
authority over LA County Sheriff but

1129
00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:38,790
it's not making sense to me well let's

1130
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:40,350
just say stick with that life so LA City

1131
00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:42,510
is put in some these are real

1132
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:44,220
restrictions California you're saying

1133
00:47:47,150 --> 00:47:45,810
he's saying he'd these so it's not

1134
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:47,160
really clear where these are actual

1135
00:47:52,030 --> 00:47:50,310
orders that are enforceable by force of

1136
00:47:54,170 --> 00:47:52,040
law and let me tell you a fun story

1137
00:47:57,140 --> 00:47:54,180
actually one of the things that got me

1138
00:47:58,190 --> 00:47:57,150
started into looking at executive orders

1139
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:58,200
and everything like that

1140
00:48:03,140 --> 00:47:59,760
because I was reading a book at the

1141
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:03,150
about the 1906 earthquake and in it they

1142
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:04,770
talked about how the city was under

1143
00:48:10,340 --> 00:48:08,490
martial law and as I start researching

1144
00:48:13,550 --> 00:48:10,350
it I discovered that the governor of

1145
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:13,560
California never actually issued a order

1146
00:48:19,550 --> 00:48:17,370
of martial law he never ordered the

1147
00:48:22,670 --> 00:48:19,560
National Guard to come in and maintain

1148
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:22,680
peace and order what had happened was

1149
00:48:27,950 --> 00:48:25,650
the mayor of San Francisco basically

1150
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:27,960
told the press I have told the National

1151
00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:29,970
Guard that they are to shoot on sight

1152
00:48:36,020 --> 00:48:33,630
anybody who is looting or whatever that

1153
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:36,030
was not within the authority of a mayor

1154
00:48:41,420 --> 00:48:38,850
a mayor does not have the authority to

1155
00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:41,430
declare a state of emergency the mayor

1156
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:44,040
does not have authority over the

1157
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:46,650
National Guard and a mayor doesn't have

1158
00:48:54,050 --> 00:48:49,670
the authority over a County Sheriff and

1159
00:48:55,820 --> 00:48:54,060
so what you know yeah you know America

1160
00:48:56,420 --> 00:48:55,830
said he could say a lot of things but is

1161
00:48:59,060 --> 00:48:56,430
he

1162
00:49:03,080 --> 00:48:59,070
actually saying stuff that's was in his

1163
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:03,090
authority the National Guard there's the

1164
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:04,260
you know the president has some

1165
00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:07,200
authority over it with the permission of

1166
00:49:12,110 --> 00:49:09,540
a governor a governor has control of it

1167
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:12,120
but even a governor does not send in the

1168
00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:14,130
National Guard to a city unless he has

1169
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:17,160
some permission of the city and so what

1170
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,240
we're seeing right now is that

1171
00:49:22,610 --> 00:49:20,400
politicians who are wanting to do

1172
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:22,620
something they're wanting to go out and

1173
00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:25,490
talk to the media and say I'm doing

1174
00:49:30,380 --> 00:49:28,710
something about this crisis they're not

1175
00:49:31,970 --> 00:49:30,390
checked in with their lawyers they're

1176
00:49:34,190 --> 00:49:31,980
not checking with their constitution

1177
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:34,200
they're not following you know proper

1178
00:49:39,230 --> 00:49:36,330
police powers and they're not following

1179
00:49:42,110 --> 00:49:39,240
proper Authority guidelines of who has

1180
00:49:44,540 --> 00:49:42,120
the authority they're just saying stuff

1181
00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:44,550
and at the end of the day we might find

1182
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:46,260
out like the 1906 earthquake

1183
00:49:50,540 --> 00:49:48,090
it's the biggest urban legend out there

1184
00:49:52,610 --> 00:49:50,550
that martial law was in the city of San

1185
00:49:55,250 --> 00:49:52,620
Francisco during the earthquake because

1186
00:49:58,310 --> 00:49:55,260
there was never that authority granted

1187
00:50:00,590 --> 00:49:58,320
but you can still go to Wikipedia today

1188
00:50:02,660 --> 00:50:00,600
and you're gonna see that people believe

1189
00:50:05,870 --> 00:50:02,670
martial law was called out during the

1190
00:50:08,330 --> 00:50:05,880
1906 earthquake legally it never

1191
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:08,340
happened the perception is there but

1192
00:50:13,070 --> 00:50:11,280
legality is that it never happened so

1193
00:50:14,660 --> 00:50:13,080
Garcetti zorder I think is similar to

1194
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:14,670
San Francisco's order in a bunch of

1195
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:17,310
counties up there which is basically

1196
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:19,440
shelter in place you can only leave your

1197
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:21,810
home to go to the grocery store go to

1198
00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:25,530
the doctor go care for a family member

1199
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:28,710
or to go to an essential job yeah right

1200
00:50:33,850 --> 00:50:31,500
otherwise and you would say thousand

1201
00:50:36,590 --> 00:50:33,860
percent that's unconstitutional based on

1202
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,600
prior court rulings based upon my

1203
00:50:40,940 --> 00:50:38,880
reading of what happened in the Spanish

1204
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:40,950
flu and how the courts interpreted it

1205
00:50:45,740 --> 00:50:43,890
that is completely outside of the

1206
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:45,750
guidelines because a public health

1207
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:47,910
official is not allowed to quarantine

1208
00:50:54,980 --> 00:50:52,050
somebody who has not been they do not

1209
00:50:56,450 --> 00:50:54,990
have probable cause has the virus or

1210
00:50:59,300 --> 00:50:56,460
it's been associated with somebody that

1211
00:51:03,050 --> 00:50:59,310
has a virus and in turn he's trampled

1212
00:51:07,550 --> 00:51:03,060
over gun rights because he says well an

1213
00:51:09,380 --> 00:51:07,560
essential job is not selling guns Merced

1214
00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:09,390
he says that's not an essential job so

1215
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:09,870
guns

1216
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:13,290
you are shut down and apparently he

1217
00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:14,760
stepped in it with that because it

1218
00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:16,710
appears as of this morning that they may

1219
00:51:21,380 --> 00:51:19,140
have already reversed that because

1220
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,390
basically he's saying that I'm going to

1221
00:51:26,180 --> 00:51:23,760
deny you your second Amendment right to

1222
00:51:28,070 --> 00:51:26,190
bear arms because you can't go get one

1223
00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:28,080
yeah I've shut down the gun stores and

1224
00:51:30,860 --> 00:51:29,220
what's so funny is because we have

1225
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:30,870
10-day waiting periods you know when

1226
00:51:35,210 --> 00:51:32,370
this started happening a lot of people

1227
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:35,220
went out there and bought guns and Olson

1228
00:51:38,810 --> 00:51:36,690
learned that they had a 10-day waiting

1229
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:38,820
period and then now with his gun stores

1230
00:51:42,290 --> 00:51:40,410
being shut down how can they go even

1231
00:51:45,620 --> 00:51:42,300
pick up their gun in ten days and

1232
00:51:47,780 --> 00:51:45,630
because of how the shelter-in-place

1233
00:51:51,070 --> 00:51:47,790
rules are going on the longer this goes

1234
00:51:53,300 --> 00:51:51,080
on the people who can't pay their

1235
00:51:54,740 --> 00:51:53,310
grocery bill because they don't have a

1236
00:51:58,370 --> 00:51:54,750
job they live paycheck to paycheck

1237
00:52:00,860 --> 00:51:58,380
they're gonna start wanting to loot and

1238
00:52:03,140 --> 00:52:00,870
riot and everything like that we are

1239
00:52:04,610 --> 00:52:03,150
sitting on a tinderbox I mean I've been

1240
00:52:06,290 --> 00:52:04,620
actually impressed with this people of

1241
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:06,300
California that we haven't gone to riot

1242
00:52:11,810 --> 00:52:08,910
mode yet but the everyday that this is

1243
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:11,820
going on is that much more likely that

1244
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:14,850
somebody is not going to be able to pay

1245
00:52:18,260 --> 00:52:16,650
their bills there they're gonna just

1246
00:52:20,570 --> 00:52:18,270
steal something at the grocery store

1247
00:52:23,690 --> 00:52:20,580
it's gonna turn into a riot very quickly

1248
00:52:26,060 --> 00:52:23,700
plundered to see and we're gonna see the

1249
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:26,070
National Guard called out very very

1250
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:31,130
quickly to maintain peace and order and

1251
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:34,110
we are making it worse because we got

1252
00:52:39,620 --> 00:52:36,810
politicians you know cutting off

1253
00:52:41,420 --> 00:52:39,630
people's ability to make money and cut

1254
00:52:43,130 --> 00:52:41,430
off people's ability to actually protect

1255
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:43,140
their property yeah well and I'll give

1256
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:44,640
you one last example before we finish

1257
00:52:49,220 --> 00:52:46,770
this the extent of Garcetti zorder

1258
00:52:52,610 --> 00:52:49,230
because he expressly stated this you

1259
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:52,620
cannot leave your home in Los Angeles to

1260
00:52:58,490 --> 00:52:55,170
go to your vacation home in Palm Springs

1261
00:53:01,250 --> 00:52:58,500
I'm gonna leave my home get in my car

1262
00:53:03,010 --> 00:53:01,260
drive to my property in Palm Springs get

1263
00:53:05,780 --> 00:53:03,020
out of the car and go into my house no

1264
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:05,790
shelter in place you're not permitted to

1265
00:53:10,430 --> 00:53:08,640
go to your vacation home you know this

1266
00:53:12,170 --> 00:53:10,440
is having an effect on a lot of

1267
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:12,180
different people I had people who were

1268
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:14,850
actually planning on moving out of the

1269
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:17,010
state Nelson because moving is not an

1270
00:53:21,740 --> 00:53:18,900
essential service can't move out of the

1271
00:53:23,210 --> 00:53:21,750
state people who are supposed to get

1272
00:53:25,339 --> 00:53:23,220
married this week

1273
00:53:26,839 --> 00:53:25,349
again are not gonna be allowed to get

1274
00:53:28,550 --> 00:53:26,849
married this weekend yeah they can go

1275
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:28,560
have a justice of the peace wedding but

1276
00:53:36,260 --> 00:53:33,410
I mean it's this is having a dramatic

1277
00:53:39,710 --> 00:53:36,270
effect on the life of a lot of people

1278
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:39,720
because the politicians don't want to

1279
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:42,170
leave it at a guideline or a

1280
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:45,690
recommendation they want to be able to

1281
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:49,490
say that they are doing something and

1282
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:52,170
the Constitution doesn't allow them that

1283
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:54,810
authority but they don't care they're

1284
00:53:59,660 --> 00:53:57,090
gonna be like that mayor in San

1285
00:54:02,960 --> 00:53:59,670
Francisco in 1906 and they're gonna just

1286
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:02,970
say stuff whether it's true or not yeah